The model 1911 and model 1911a1 military and commercial pistols, 3rd edition, totals 566 pages. Barrels, which wear the same caliber designation, are interchangeable with 1911style pistols. The latter are copies of the colt, made with coltsupplied machinery and tooling. Which aftermarket replacement barrel would be the best fit for this gun. Inspire a love of reading with prime book box for kids discover delightful childrens books with prime book box, a subscription that delivers new books every 1, 2, or 3 months new customers receive 30% off your first box. Plus ship your books for free and get paid cash, fast. The following parts on the bm interchange with the 1911. Here is an eminently collectable specimen of the argentine descendant of the colt 1911, a ballester molina hafdasa. The ballester molina is also known as hafdasa, after the initials of its manufacturer. The ballesters did not, of course, always have a grip safety, and this one does not, only. Wish alot of the new 1911 clones were made this good and accurate,but it would cost to much.
Original argentine ballester molina colt 1911 7rd 45 magazine capacity 7. At some point between 1940 and 1942, hafdasa changed the trademark name of the pistol from ballester rigaud to ballester molina, with the change reflected in the markings on the slide of the pistol. Ballester molina made in argentina need ballester molina made in argentina parts. Ballester molina was manufactured under license from colt, to reproduce the 1911 colt government, same way feg was licensed to reproduce the browning hp in hungary so, the colt government is not a 1911. I know the magazines are, someone once told me the barrels were, but i question that. Thus this compiles the works all those currently affiliated with this institution, not those affilated at the time of publication. They are made from english walnut of the natural color, checkered with the diamonds, oil finished. Ballester mollina is a south american brand made for military and police use, and also in a 22 caliber training pistol with the same grip frame as the. Only a few parts will interchange between the 1911 government model pistol, and the ballester molina. The ballestermolina is a pistol designed and built by the argentine company hispano. The ballester trigger and hammer group are of the spanish star design and totally different. Willing to drive an hour outside of pdx to your ffl dealer be sure they will deal with private parties first. Ballester molina made in argentina gun parts numrich. The middle one i think s of the free state of bavaria.
The ballester is also known as the hafdasa, after the initials of the company that made it. The ballestermolina represented a localized argentine attempt to produce a costeffective. I had one of these many years ago and it was extremely accurate. Colt 1911 grips and the ballester molina if this is your first visit, be sure to check out the faq by clicking the link above. These grips mount with two screws each that go directly into tapped holes in the frame, rather than the us government standard specs for a 0. The familiar ballester molina rollmark is the first sign this isnt a standard pistol. Ballestermolina semiautomatic service pistol military factory. Manufactured in argentina from 1927 to around 1960 with coltsupplied tools, it had parts interchangeable with any other standard government model, unlike the ballestermolina which also comes from argentina. Hafadas balllester molina 45 auto handguns and ammunition. The gun was instantly attractive to the argentine military as the ammunition, 7shot magazines, and holsters from their existing supplies of colts were interchangeable. You are bidding on one ballester molina semiautomatic pistol. The only modern 1911 parts that readily interchange is the barrel.
Here are 3 ballester molinas including an army, border guard, and british examples and each are in 45 acp. Near as i can tell, the barrel and mag, maybe a few small parts might interchange between the two. I have recently came across this posting and need some help also. I know the barrel and mags are parts that are interchangeable with standard 1911 parts, so. This weapon was incorporated into the ea in 1938 as caliber. Ballaster molina vs ballaster rigaud gun and game the. The familiar ballestermolina rollmark is the first sign this isnt a standard pistol. Rear to front the first one has been verified that it is the german navy. Several years later, hafdasa hired a pair of engineers, the frenchman rorice rigaud, and carlos ballester molina a member of both the ballester and molina families. Ballestermolina military wiki fandom powered by wikia. These are grips for ballester molina a copy of colt 1911 made by hafdasa argentina. Ballestermolina and colt 1911 interchange the firearms. Parts for ballester molina the curio and relic firearms. The ballestermolina is a short recoiloperated semiautomatic locked breech pistol.
I recently purchased a very nice ballester molina and have been more than pleased with the shooting and overall finish and quality of the gun. Ballester molina industria argentina other than the serial number, that is all that is stamped on the gun. A few hundred rds of ball and she runs like a top with super accuracy. Produced by the high quality manufacturer hafdasa, ballester molina pistols were used for over 40 years by argentine military and government agencies. I was wondering your thoughts on this make pistol and and the thought of adding a set of hogue rubber grips to one. New stainless barrel refinished with cerakote or similar. Improvements to the entire manufacturing process include better alloys, more controlled furnaces, vacuum heat treat, better tooling, and. The ballestermolina has been described as an unauthorized copy of the u. Stockingtease, the hunsyellow pages, kmart, msn, microsoft. It has been rearsenaled and is allmatching except mag, but the barrel is worn out and pitted. The ballester molina 1911 pistol was a licensed copy of john brownings 1911 pistol, issued by colt. This is a discussion on hardasa ballester molina within the semi auto pistols forums, part of the handgun forum category.
All controls are very similar, except for the absence of a grip safety. The ballester molina 1911 pistol was a licensed copy of john brownings. Shop for ballester molina 45 parts, schematics, and more with numrich gun parts. Both were really pretty good shooters, and as good as your typical 1911. Not many parts are interchangeable, the grips are definitely not compatible with 1911 s, the hole spacing is different. A friend of mine wants to trade me a ballester molina that has a broken extractor.
The ballestermolina represented a localized argentine attempt to produce a cost effective. There are a total of 5 small arms from 1810 to 1819 entries in the military factory. Ballester molina made in argentina gun parts numrich gun parts. The steel available today is of much higher quality than what was available in 1911 when the 1911 pistol was first produced. The model 1911 and model 1911a1 military and commercial. Barrels, which wear the same caliber designation, are interchangeable with 1911 style pistols. Colt 1911 45 vs ballester molina 11,25 mensaje por casado. These have a wide stem and are not interchangeable the the colt 1911 pistols. Mar 20, 2015 45 acp speed for a colt or ballester molina by kalvin is licensed under the creative commons attribution noncommercial license. Rigaud eventually became hafdasas chief design engineer, while ballester molina, originally responsible for metallurgy, heat treatment, and production methodologies, became. Barrels can be found at auctions sites, like ebay, auction arms, and gun broker. The 1911 pattern also formed the basis for the argentine ballester molina and. Although many other parts appear identical at first glance, they are not.
These are getting hard to find and becoming collectable. First will they fit like most 1911 clones and is it worth altering an already nice gun. The ballester molina was a private venture, and derived in most part from spanish designs. Milsurps knowledge library 194244 ballestermolina hafdasa. Just picked up a bm cheap range gun at the local fun shop. This pistol has been redone to like new condition with new parkerizing and custom grips for sale by reggie macamaux on gunsamerica 908099847. It is a copy of the 1911 colt pistol that was made by the argentina government from 1938 until 1953, for use by their military and police.
Colt 1911 1911a1 commander pistol recoil spring 17 lbs. These are new old stock with a bluedblack finish, used 2 per side to hold the wooden grip pannels in place. Shop ballester molina made in argentina gun parts molina 45. The locking system is a near identical copy of the colt m1911a1, with the swinging lock used to unlock the barrel from the slide. Flag images indicative of country of origin and not necessarily the primary operator. They are similar to 1911 s but also quite different in a number of ways. This pistol was a variant of the m1911a1 pistol that is.
I have a molina with three small marks on the right side of the receiver just above the front trigger guard. The ballester is a bit crude looking compared to the sistemas. The argentinian ballester molina 1911 variant youtube. Get the best deals on argentine gun parts and upgrade your home workout gear with the largest online selection at.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiats, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. The graf spee and the ballester molina american rifleman who knows what the truth might be. Walt kulecks new book, the m1911 complete assembly guide, is the. The only parts that are interchangeable with the colts at the. It was a chopped version of the popular full size 9mm star model b which was used by the nazis as a substitute standard pistol during world war ii and later by the south african army in the 50s, 60s, and 70s. I know the 1911 extractor is too long but a 38 super extractor is shorter than a 45 extractor so would that be close enough to work. The m1911 pistol originated in the late 1890s as the result of a search for a suitable selfloading. Ballester molina interchangeability ive heard good things about the ballester molinas and would like to know what parts are interchangeable with the standard 1911s. Despite its relation to the original browning design, some of the internal parts of the ballestermolina were not interchangeable with the m1911. Colt 1911 grips and the ballester molina gunboards dot com.
Even though it looks a lot like a 1911, the only parts that are easily interchangeable are the barrel, operating spring, and the magazine. Due to the coronavirus covid19 outbreak and measures imposed by our state government, our operations are temporarily suspended. The ballester molina has a pretty worn out barrel but other then that and the grips seems to be in pretty good shape. When i got home i did some research and came up with. This offering is for a set of 4 ballester molina 1911 grip screws. The star 9mm is one of the old ones that was obviously designed to look like a 1911. Earn more cash by selling your used textbooks to bookbyte. Ballester molina 1911 grip screws set of 4 liberty tree collectors. Not many parts are interchangeable, the grips are definitely not compatible with 1911s, the hole spacing is different. The exception might be a longterm restoration project where you dont care how much money you end up putting into the project. Home m1911m1911a1 commercial parts colt officer parts colt 1911 1911a1 commander pistol recoil spring 17 lbs. So now i have this ballester molina 1911 on layaway.
The ballester molina and the m1911 share an identical sevenround magazine, barrel, recoil spring, and barrel bushing. Wts or ballester molina gendarmeria nacional 45 acp pistol. Jul 31, 2016 selling my ballester molina gendarmeria nacional pistol in vg condition. No internal changes were made, and parts remained interchangeable between the two. Manufactured in argentina from 1927 to around 1960 with coltsupplied tools, it had parts interchangeable with any other standard government model, unlike the ballester molina which also comes from argentina. Entries are listed below in alphanumeric order 1toz. Not having the money on me, i utilized the can i put it on layaway clause. Com is the worlds largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiats of all types. Ballester molina armada argentina with german proof marks. The ballester molina is also known as the hafdasa, after the initials of its manufacturer. In other words, you cannot use these grips on a 1911 clone, and you cant put colt 1911 grips on a ballester molina. Jun 09, 2015 the ballestermolina was used by argentinas security forces. In fact, except for the magazine, parts between the two firearms are not interchangeable. This pistol was a variant of the m1911a1 pistol that is mostly based on the spanish star.
Navy in the batch shipped to the new york naval shipyard in july. Additionally, the modelo 1938 designation was dropped, and the pistol was now known as the pistola ballester rigaud. Jul 20, 2017 here are 3 ballester molinas including an army, border guard, and british examples and each are in 45 acp. The ballestermolina was also chambered to fire the large. Guns for sale ballestermolina argentine ballestermolina.
Research is one thing ive become forumfamous for in a few places. Barrel and slide are not numbered on this specimen. Colt 1911 45 vs ballester molina 11,25 foro full aventura. Despite its relation to the original browning design, some of the internal parts of the ballestermolina were not interchangeable. This is similar in size to the 124b grooved grips, but are made smooth, to enhance pearl and set off medallions better. While the engineering concepts are similar to the m1911a1, it is not even close to being an exact copy. Systema 1927 top, colt 1911 middle, ballester molina bottom.
Interesting firearms the ballestermolina lots of pics. Numrich gun parts corporation offers the largest selection and best prices for hard to find ballester molina made in argentina parts. Theres lots of interesting lore associated with the ballester molina and the ballester rigaud, especially where the steel used to make them came from. For what its worth, i own a 9mm spanish star bm which is a fine pistol and roughly based on the original john browning design. You never know what youre going to run it to up here she shoots pretty solid, no miss fires ive gotten her covered with dirt and snow and she fired just fine.
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